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August 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

Basic barbell programmes reviewed

Basic barbell programmes are the key to strength. Of course there are various and lovely benefits to bodyweight training, kettlebells, sandbags, yoga and so on, but for just getting strong in a ‘lifting big weights’ kind of sense, you can’t beat barbells. The classic strength builders like squat, deadlift, power clean, overhead press are all best performed with a barbell.

Paula Radcliffe squatting with a heavy barbell

Yes, even Paula Radcliffe squats – quite heavy as well! A barbell programme is the best way to get strong legs, a strong back, strong upper body and a strong core. The stronger you are, the easier it is to do athletic things.

‘Basic’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘beginner’ or ‘newbie’ either. It means simple and effective. A basic barbell programme could be ideal for, say, a powerlifter who wants to get back to basics for a while, as well as an athlete needing to build strength for their sport in the off season.

Prerequisites

Before I get into the detail of the programmes, it’s important that you have the prerequisites of a basic barbell programme in place, and these are:

Power cage

Power cage

  • Access to a barbell (preferably an Olympic bar)
  • Access to weight plates (preferably down to 1.25kg)
  • Access to a squat rack or power cage

These are basic requirements but sadly many so-called gyms can’t fulfil them. If you have access to a decent strength and conditioning facility at a sports club or university you will probably be fine, but if you just go to your local high street chain gym, you may struggle.

If your gym doesn’t have barbells and racks, my advice is: leave and never look back. If you are serious about your training, find a gym that takes your training seriously and can provide you with the basic equipment that folks have used for hundreds of years to get strong. Or invest in your own kit for home. It’s that simple.

Introduction to the programmes

The programmes discussed below are:

Starting Strength – beginner
Stronglifts – beginner
Wendler’s 5/3/1 – intermediate or advanced
Madcow intermediate 5×5 – intermediate (there is also an advanced version)
Texas Method – intermediate

As a rule of thumb, beginner means someone who is in their first year of barbell strength training; intermediate is someone with a year or two of barbell training under their belt; advanced is someone who has been training for years.

The main difference between beginner programmes and intermediate or advanced programmes is that beginner programmes assume progression (increase in weight or reps) from session to session. At some stage progression every session will no longer be possible (as you get closer to your strength potential) and you then need a programme that includes progression from week to week, or from cycle to cycle.

If you only train with barbells once a week, or you’ve never done a strength-focussed programme before (as opposed to a bodybuilding programme), then you might be a beginner in strength terms even if you have been training for a couple of years or more.

You’ll notice that all of these programmes feature sets of between 1 and 5 reps. This is the ideal rep range for strength building. 5 rep sets are long enough to get good technique nailed and for strength adaptations to occur. You can also build mass with 5 rep sets. If you’ve not done 1-5 rep sets before, you’ve probably not done a strength programme before.

I’ll come back to this beginner-intermediate distinction at the end, but in the meantime, let’s take a look at the programmes.

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Starting Strength – great for beginners and intermediates

Book: Starting Strength 2nd edition by Mark Rippetoe & Lon Kilgore available from startingstrength.com or Amazon
Online resources: Starting Strength forum and Starting Strength Wiki

Starting Strength is an excellent beginner programme – although Stronglifts (discussed below) might suit you better. Starting Strength can also be good for intermediates who are still making progress on a linear programme.

It is good partly because of the structure of the programme and partly because of the wealth of guidance and technical knowledge contained in the book. It allows you to teach yourself good technique and safe, effective training practice.

Likewise, anyone who has been away from training for a while, or has only ever had informal tuition in the barbell lifts learning from people around them, will probably benefit hugely from the technical guidance in Starting Strength. I’ve been training for years and I still refer to it.

What is the programme?
It is a 3 day a week programme featuring the squat, deadlift, bench, military press and power clean. You squat every session and alternate the other lifts.

Sets are 5 reps, but this is not a 5×5 (5 sets of 5 reps) programme; the number of sets changes depending on the lift you are doing. For example, Rippetoe believes that the squat benefits more from ‘sets across’ (several sets at the same weight) than the deadlift, which is better done as one heavy set.

Basic programme:
(note: this and all other programmes quoted below are just the bare bones of the programme to give you an idea of what it looks like; invariably there is much more detail in the books themselves)

Workout A Workout B
3 x 5  Squat
3 x 5  Bench Press
1 x 5  Deadlift
3 x 5  Squat
3 x 5  Press
5 x 3  Power clean

Alternating these sessions three days a week means that one week you do Workout A twice and the next week you do Workout B twice.

Why is Starting Strength good?
It does what it says on the tin. It is simple to follow and comes with excellent technique advice in the book. It will potentially last you a long time; you can continue to build strength and/or mass for months or years with this kind of programme.

There is also an active forum (and many other popular forums have Starting Strength threads) so support and motivation is only a click away.

Any downsides?
You might get bored if you are used to doing lots of different exercises and ‘mixing up’ your programme every six weeks as many PTs like you to do. But if that is the case, you need to change your mindset because getting stronger is all about plugging away at a few key movements. Use the numbers as your motivation and enjoy mastering these big movements.

The power clean is harder to master than the other movements, being a more technical lift. It’s a great lift to learn but if you are not keen to take it on, Stronglifts (below) is a good alternative. Some people also substitute the barbell row for the power clean on Starting Strength.

Getting started
You’ll need the book (a good investment if you are serious about your training), and perhaps the Wiki. The book contains all the technical guidance and the concepts behind the programme but it doesn’t contain an actual template programme. There’s enough information in the book for you to create your own programme if you want, but if you would rather not, you can refer to the Wiki for programmes that Rippetoe and others have written using the Starting Strength concepts.

Stronglifts – accessible beginner programme

Book: Free ebook from Stronglifts.com
Online resources: blog at Stronglifts.com and members-only forum

Stronglifts is very similar to Starting Strength in structure, but packaged differently and aimed at a more looks-conscious crowd. The tagline is ‘build muscle and lose fat’, rather than ‘get strong’, although Stronglifts will get you strong as well, if you’ve not really trained strength before. You might be more motivated by ‘look good naked’ rhetoric than ‘get awesomely strong’ rhetoric. There is also more information on the Stronglifts website about nutrition and losing fat than there is in Starting Strength.

Most of the ebook is written in an FAQ style which is easy to read and gets the information over effectively. The ebook itself doesn’t contain any ‘how to’ information on technique but all of this is available on the website. It’s not as technically comprehensive as Starting Strength – but then, few books are.

What is the programme?
Like Starting Strength it is a 3 day a week programme featuring the squat, deadlift, bench, and various assistance exercises. You squat every session and alternate the other lifts.

Unlike Starting Strength, Stronglifts does not include the power clean as a key lift. The power clean is rather more technical than squat or deadlift and will take longer to master. Stronglifts includes the technically easier movements of inverted row and pull up/chin up.

The set and rep scheme is slightly different from Starting Strength. More of the exercises are 5×5 rather than 3×5, so overall the volume is higher.

Basic programme:

Workout A Workout B
Squat 5 x 5
Bench Press 5 x 5
Inverted rows 3 x F
Push ups 3 x F
Reverse crunch 3 x 12
Squat 5 x 5
Overhead press 5 x 5
Deadlift 1 x 5
Pull ups/chin ups 3 x F
Prone bridges 3 x 30 sec

Like Starting Strength, you alternate these workouts over a three day week.

Why is Stronglifts good?
It is written in an accessible way and is easy to follow.

There are more exercises included in the basic programme than Starting Strength, so if Starting Strength looks a bit boring you might fare better on Stronglifts.

Any downsides?
Many people have said that adding weight every workout gets quite difficult within a few weeks or months. Some people also get a bit tired and/or demotivated on the programme because the volume is quite high. Doing 5×5 squats is much more demanding than doing 3×10 bicep curls!

Although there is an online community around the programme, it is now members-only. As far as I know, it is still free, but only opens to new members periodically, so it may be a while before you can join.

Getting started
It is quick to get started as everything is online. Download the free ebook from Stronglifts.com and read the blog posts for technique info.

Wendler’s 5/3/1 – great intermediate or advanced programme

Book: purchase ebook online from EliteFTS.com
Online resources: 5/3/1 FAQ and the original T-Nation article

Jim Wendler is a powerlifter from the infamous Westside Barbell powerlifting gym who underwent a renaissance when he realised that although he had become enormously strong in the competitive power lifts, he was also extremely fat, out of shape and burnt out from lifting.

The eventual result of this change in philosophy was a programme which combines strength with some conditioning, can be done around a normal lifestyle and provides simple progression and regular personal bests.

What is the programme?
You train 3-4 days a week (there are other options too) on a 4-week cycle. One day is devoted to squat, one to deadlift, one to military press and one to bench press. The rep schemes for these lifts are as follows:

Week 1: 3 x 5
Week 2: 3 x 3
Week 3: 1 x 5, 1 x 3, 1 x 1+ as many more reps as you can do
Week 4: deload week (light weights for sets of 5)
Week 5: start new 4-week cycle as above, with slightly heavier weights

The weight you use on the main exercise each week is worked out as a percentage of your max. The programme starts light so that continuous progress can be made.

As well as the main exercises, you add in whatever assistance exercises you want (dips, chins, rows, shrugs, good mornings etc). You also add in conditioning such as hill sprints or prowler pushes.

Why is it good?
It is a classic powerlifting rep scheme, from 5 reps to 3 to 1, but the difference is that you don’t reach your absolute max – instead you try to get more reps at a slightly sub-maximal weight. This means that you get more volume than a traditional powerlifting programme but you still have to work hard at heavy weights, and so you get stronger.

There is also the interesting mental challenge of not knowing how many reps you might get on that last set of 1+. Your personal bests become not your one rep max but a rep PB on a particular weight. This also takes the pressure off going to max too often. In fact you might only go to max on the platform.

Any downsides?
I’ve seen people do this programme and get very high reps on their 1+ day. This is because they haven’t reached anywhere near their strength potential. I’m not convinced that 5/3/1 is the best programme in this situation; although it won’t exactly do you harm either. But Starting Strength or some other linear 3×5 or 5×5 programme is better to build strength first. I would include Crossfitters in this group as many do not do enough strength training in their day to day Crossfitting to be ready for 5/3/1, unless they are coming from a lifting background.

For powerlifters this programme might contain more volume than they are used to; but for beginners the volume on 5/3/1 is less than on the other beginner programmes discussed here.

5/3/1 seems ideal for people who have been plugging away with powerlifting or heavy bodybuilding workouts for years and have just stalled. It could also suit someone who is transitioning from ‘normal’ barbell training into powerlifting training, perhaps working up to their first meet.

Getting started
The book does not contain detailed instruction in the lifts but includes good performance tips if you can already perform a squat, deadlift, bench and military press and are familiar with the assistance exercises.

If you are happy performing the movements, the book is all you need: it even provides Excel templates and worksheets for you to put your programme together. There are formulas for obtaining your one rep max but you might also want to test your one rep max first.

If you’ve done little barbell work before and you are not confident in the main exercises, begin with Starting Strength and save 5/3/1 for when you are at a more advanced level.

Madcow intermediate 5×5 – intermediate

Online resources: Madcow intermediate 5×5

There are many variations of the basic 5×5 programme out there, so I’m not going to go through all of them. This particular programme is useful because it is clearly set out by Madcow, based on an original programme by legendary American strength coach Bill Starr.

The original programme was designed for off season football players, i.e. athletes who need strength and explosive power, and so power cleans and high pulls were included. Madcow presents a version with deadlift instead of high pull and barbell row instead of power clean – more geared to lifters simply focussing on strength and/or mass.

(Note: there is an advanced version which you can also access on Madcow. The main difference is that it is periodised over a four-week cycle)

What is the programme?
5×5 intermediate is a 3 day a week programme based on squat, bench, press, row, deadlift and assistance exercises. You squat every day.

You perform ramping (i.e. increasing) sets of 5×5 on a Monday, 4×5 on a Wednesday and by Friday you are doing a heavy triple, followed by a back off set of 8. That triple becomes your heaviest set of 5 on a Monday.

Basic programme:

Monday – heavy Wednesday – light Friday – medium
Squat 5 x 5
Bench Press 5 x 5
Barbell row 5 x 5
2 sets of weighted hypers
4 sets of weighted sit-ups
Squat 4 x 5
Incline bench 4 x 5
Deadlift 4 x 5
Sit ups 3 sets
Squat 4×5, 1×3, 1×8
Bench press 4×5, 1×3, 1×8
Barbell row 4×5, 1×3, 1×8
Weighted dips 3 sets of 5-8
Triceps and biceps 3 sets of 8 each

Why is it good?
Like the other programmes, it is simple and easy to follow. It contains the big exercises that will cause the greatest strength adaptation and it has you squatting every session.

There is a lot of volume but most of it isn’t heavy because sets are ramping. This gives the body lots of time to get fit and strong, and for those with less experience at the lifts, more opportunity to practise technique. If you keep rest periods down, the cardio effect of doing 5×5 is significant.

Any downsides?
Many people will find it hard to keep adding weight every week, but if that is the case, simply repeat the session until you make all your reps at the new weight.

If you have no experience with the barbell lifts, this is not the ideal programme. But if you have basic technique in the lifts, this is a good beginner-to-intermediate programme for lifters and athletes.

Getting started
The details of the programme are found online at Madcow intermediate 5×5. For technique on the lifts, pick up a copy of Starting Strength.

Olympic lifter

Texas Method – intermediate

Book: Practical Programming for Strength Training by Rippetoe & Kilgore from startingstrength.com or Amazon
Online resources: startingstrength.com

The Texas Method is described by Mark Rippetoe in the book Practical Programming for Strength Training and is one of the intermediate programmes following the basic Starting Strength.

What is the programme?
There isn’t a programme so much as a programming method. Monday is the ‘stress’ day of the week, where adaptation takes place. Wednesday is a lighter day as the lifter is still recovering from Monday. Friday is a high intensity-low volume day where personal bests can be attempted.

Using squat as an example:

Monday Wednesday – light Friday
Squat 5 x 5 Squat 2 x 5
OR
related exercise 3 x 3
Squat 1 x 5 (heavy)
OR
triple, double or single

The exact exercises, sets and reps you choose depend on your goals. For the Friday, for example, you may want to do 1 x 5 one week, 1 x 3 the next week and 1 rep max the week after.

You don’t have to do every exercise every day. In fact, according to Glenn Pendlay, Wednesday is not for ‘light’ weights in the main lifts so much as exercises that are easier to recover from or exercises that the lifter is naturally less good at. For example, a powerlifter could do front squat on the Wednesday, since her front squat is likely to be significantly lighter than her back squat. Likewise overhead press can be used instead of bench press or power clean instead of deadlift.

Some intermediate lifters may fare better doing only one set of 5 on the deadlift on a Monday, rather than 5×5, especially when squatting the same day. The deadlift being such a taxing lift, it tends not to require as much volume as the other lifts.

Why is it good?
It is one of the progressions from Starting Strength, utilising principles similar to other 5×5 variations. The format of heavy/medium/light is a type of periodisation, easier to perform and recover from than a programme that demands progress every session. The method is flexible and easy to customise for your particular needs.

Any downsides?
It’s quite hard to work out exactly what a full Texas Method programme would look like, as Practical Programming only gives examples for one lift at a time. You are expected to interpret the method for yourself, which some people may not be comfortable with. (Note: I have since been told that the latest edition of Practical Programming does offer some example programmes of the Texas Method.)

Practical Programming is an excellent book if you are interested in the general topic of programming, but if all you want is a new programme to start, then getting a book like this is probably not necessary. You might be better off buying Wendler’s 5/3/1 or giving Madcow intermediate a go.

This programme is probably best for people who have done Starting Strength and like the Rippetoe approach, but have stopped making progress and need to alter their programming.

Getting started
You will need the book Practical Programming for Strength Training by Rippetoe & Kilgore. You may also want to check out what other people have done on the Starting Strength forum.

Conclusion

Unless you are a complete beginner, you probably need to decide whether you need a beginner programme or an intermediate programme. This shouldn’t be a decision based on ego. In fact, you want to stay at ‘beginner’ level for as long as possible, since once your progress stalls you have to try all sorts of programming voo-doo to get it going again. The longer you are on a beginner programme making progress, the more likely you are to end up being a beast!

Making a choice between the programmes available will largely come down to packaging and appeal. For example, you might like the Stronglifts approach better than the Starting Strength approach, but both programmes will do what you want them to do.

The purpose of this review was to give you an idea of what the programmes are like and a few of the pros and cons, not to rate them or attempt to say which is best.

The good news is that you won’t go far wrong choosing any of these programmes. Those who learn good technique, train consistently and work hard invariably go on to achieve great things. The most important thing is to find a programme you like the look of and can stick to.

Have you done any of these programmes? Do you have any experiences to share?

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    Hi Guber,

    Good post. Really like it. Very useful as well.

    I have wondered what some of these programs look like and I think that it’s great to have them all in one place at-a-glance.

    I have an eBook copy of the the 1st Edition of Starting Strength, and as far as technique is concerned, it’s the only thing I would refer to, along with Crossfit videos featuring Rippetoe.

    The thing that amuses me is the concept of boredom creeping in to a barbell program. If you look at them all, the number of days per week may change, and the exercises on a given day may change, as may the sets and reps but all of the programs contain squat, deadlift, bench, press, and then perhaps cleans and rows.

    There are only a handful of exercises actually worth doing with a barbell.

    From my experience boredom is the enemy of progress, i.e. if you get bored because you’re only ever doing the same few movements, then barbell training isn’t for you.

    I find that the joy is in effort, progress and training hard not in variety and fannying around.

    Gary on August 9th, 2010
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    I agree fully about “If your gym doesn’t have barbells and racks, my advice is: leave and never look back”

    Seriously, when I first started concentrating on strength work and in particular deadlifts and squats I had to go to about four different gyms. Unbelievable!

    I am going to start test driving one of these programs.

    Awesome stuff!

    Alex on August 9th, 2010
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    Just giggled, because I work at a basic chain gym – 24Hour Fitness- but with our location on High Street we truly ARE the “local high street gym”. We also have all the equipment needed for these programs (though I tend to hide/hoard our 1 set of 2.5# weight plates).

    This is a fabulous review of strength programs that I will referring others back to regularly. Thanks for posting it.

    Cannot wait to get my surgery done and get cleared to work out again. It will be a slog -I was just on the cusp from beginner to intermediate lifter – so returning to the very beginning again. I so miss lifting.

    deb roby on August 10th, 2010
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    This is incredibly useful.
    btw which one do you personally dig?

    varsha on August 10th, 2010
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    Great information, thank you! I love this blog. I’ve done a few different programs (NROLFW, Female Body Breakthrough, Power Training) over the past couple of years and I’ve really enjoyed lifting. I’d like to start over this fall with something basic, like Starting Strength (which I own)or Stronglifts to really nail down form on the basic lifts. However, I think I have a glute activation issue and thought maybe that should be my first priority. Suggestions for exercises?

    Adrien on August 10th, 2010
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    Folks, there’s a good thread on the Stronglifts forum containing reviews that readers have written on these and other barbell programmes:

    http://stronglifts.com/forum/reviews-of-strength-training-programs-t20167.html

    gubernatrix on August 10th, 2010
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    @ Gary: your point about boredom is well made. It’s funny because I can’t imagine anything more boring than five types of chest exercise – but that’s why I shouldn’t be a bodybuilder.

    @ Alex: yep, when I first transitioned to a proper gym I remember phoning round a long list of places to check what equipment they had – and this is in a big city too. This was around 5 years ago; I think things are marginally better now.

    @ deb: going back to basics can be cool. I recently did three weeks of 5×5 work including back squats, and really enjoyed it. Got a lot of useful leg strength and fitness out of that. Good luck with the surgery!

    @ varsha: I haven’t done all of them myself and I think it very much depends on the individual and what stage you are at. I used 5/3/1 for my last powerlifting meet and it worked reasonably well.

    @ Adrien: I’m not well versed in glute activation as it hasn’t been an issue for me (as far as I know!). I’d only be able to recommend what you could find through Google anyway.

    gubernatrix on August 10th, 2010
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    “Starting Strength can also be good for intermediates who are still making progress on a linear programme.”

    I’d have to quibble with that — if you’re making progress on Starting Strength, you’re not an intermediate by definition.

    Also, it sounds like your comments on the Texas Method may be based on the first edition of Practical Programming. The 2nd edition provides fully fleshed-out examples of the programming.

    Steve on August 11th, 2010
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    Not by my definition, obviously!

    An example of an ‘intermediate’ (someone who has a couple of years training experience and is comfortable performing the lifts – note: not someone who needs a periodised programme, I’m not defining intermediate that way) who could benefit from Starting Strength is someone who wants to train for strength in the off season but doesn’t train all year round. Or someone coming back into strength training who hasn’t done it for a while.

    Thanks for pointing out the difference with the second edition of Practical Programming. I am glad they have supplied proper examples as they were needed.

    gubernatrix on August 11th, 2010
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    Great post!

    Do you have similar programs for Dumbbells? I own a very basic dumbbell bench and a pair of adjustable dumbbells. I’ve been able to adapt Clarence Bass’ routines from his book Lean for Life without too much difficulty. But I would be curious as to what other programs are out there for dumbbells.

    Joe

    Joe on August 11th, 2010
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    Hi Joe, I’ve not seen many dumbbell-only programmes that are completely strength-related; they tend to be used a lot in bodybuilding (which I’m less interested in). Ross Enamait (http://rosstraining.com/blog/) uses a lot of dumbbells in his strength routines and I really rate his work. He is focussed on fighters and those who need strength with considerable conditioning. His book Infinite Intensity has a lot of dumbbell strength exercises in it.

    gubernatrix on August 11th, 2010
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    Great reviews. By the way, Starting Strength also has a large online community revolving around its forum, where you can even ask Rip questions about your training.

    It’s a great read because it pretty much contains everything that’s there to be asked about strength training. Plus Rip’s got a great sense of humor.

    Dirichlet on August 19th, 2010
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    The stronglifts website now recommends a “ladder of programs” that progressively trade volume for intensity, eg. 5×5 then 3×5 then 1×5 linear progressions, followed by a weekly progression system of your choosing.

    http://stronglifts.com/forum/the-stronglifts-ladder-of-strength-must-read-t27794.html

    The biggest difference between SL and SS is rows intead of cleans.

    nate on October 20th, 2010
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    That’s a great link nate, thanks for posting.

    I particularly like this tip near the end:
    “Sticking to a program is more important than which one you do.”

    So true! Over a lifetime of training you will do good programmes and not so good programmes, that’s the way it goes. You will always gain or learn something, but building the habit of just ‘doing the programme’ is a great one to get into.

    gubernatrix on October 20th, 2010
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    Having been on SL5x5 for about 4 months now, I’d like to share my experience with other beginners.

    When you’re starting out, it’s easy to make it fit in a 1h slot, but as soon as you begin making real progress, you need to add warm up sets and have enough recovery in between work sets. The easy fix is to just get rid of most or all accessory work.

    Still, you have more volume than Starting Strength, so you will stall more often and need to deload accordingly, especially on the bench and the press. Applying the advancement rules listed in the SS wiki helps a bit: just keep in mind the numbers are for 3×5 and make the necessary adjustments.

    Mehdi acknowledges that eventually you will stall so often that you have to drop working sets, scaling back down to 3×5.

    As you see, there’s a lot of stalling involved and every time a deload is necessary, you lose a fair bit of time to make it up back where you were.

    After you’ve dropped exercises and cut back sets, following SL means you’ve just taken the long way home, at the end of the day you’ll be doing a variation of SS, which you could have done right away with less stalls.

    The SS Wiki is good enough that you don’t need to buy the book, however those learning on their own (like me) should consider getting it sooner rather than later: you’ll be moving enough weight on the squat and deadlift that you definitely want to be sure you’re not making dangerous mistakes.

    That said, either one is a good way to stop being a potato couch and start to become healthier and stronger :)

    mark74 on November 29th, 2010
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    Mark, many thanks for taking the time to feed back – very useful indeed!

    gubernatrix on November 29th, 2010
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    I’m finding 5/3/1 to be superb and its adaptable to any level and various days per week

    Lee on January 17th, 2011
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    Since it seems you like to revise your articles from time to time, you may be interested to know that the StrongLifts forum currently cannot be viewed by non-members, and is closed to new members. You mentioned the open community as an advantage of the programme; this is no longer available.

    Kyle on June 15th, 2011
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    Thank you, I will adjust accordingly.

    gubernatrix on June 15th, 2011
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    The description of the Stronglifts program is somewhat dated. The assistance work work has been made optional, inverted rows have been replace by barbell rows, and most importantly, trainees are told to switch to 3 sets of 5 from 5 sets of 5 once they start stalling in their progress…. At which point the program is enormously similar to “starting strength with rows instead of cleans”.

    The StrongLifts forums are not only closed, they cost about $10 a month. Because non members cannot see what goes on in the forums, it is hard for an outsider to tell if the subscription content it worth it. However, I briefly held a subscription, and it is basically an active weightlifting forum with articles and videos much like you can find on Gubernatrix for free. Furthermore, getting on Mehdi’s “waiting list” exposes you to email marketing for affiliate deals that Mehdi promotes.

    When evaluating a “guru”, I strongly suggest that the consumer contrast the quality and level of maturity found in Rippetoe and Kilgore’s book “Starting Strength” against that in Hadim’s “Stronglifts Report”.

    Furthermore, there have been complaints about the StrongLifts management neglecting female lifters (at one time trying to brand itself as a “place for men”). Indeed, one need only contrast the attitude towards female trainees found in the Rippetoe’s body of work (and frankly, that of most working strength trainers today) against that of Mr. Hadim.

    Nathan on October 14th, 2011
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    edits:

    “contrast the quality and level of maturity” => “contrast the quality of technical knowledge and level of maturity”

    “that of Mr. Hadim” => “that of Mr. Hadim — for whom they are tolerated but ignored.”

    Nathan on October 14th, 2011
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